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The Song Revolution Podcast

The Song Revolution Podcast exists to empower you through valuable songwriting insights, inspiration, and interviews with some of the greatest songwriters, producers, arrangers, artists, and creatives in the industry and beyond. Find out more at nashvillechristiansongwriters.com

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Getting Real with Jason Gray: NCS Archives

11/2/2018
From the outside, it may look like Jason Gray has the perfect life. Now in his 10th year as a commercial Christian recording artist with a string of successful collaborations with some of the biggest names in Christian music, number one hit radio songs, touring with the likes of Natalie Grant, Lauren Daigle, and many more, it'd be easy for the casual onlooker to assume that Jason has it all together. But it doesn't take more than a minute with him to realize that life has been anything but rosy for Jason, despite the popularity of his music and all the commercial success he has gained.   In this episode of The Song Revolution Podcast, John Chisum gets quickly to the deeper side of Jason Gray. In their thoughtful and transparent discussion, Jason shares candidly about how his broken, abusive home growing up, his speech impediment, his own divorce, and one of the darkest moments in his life in which he could have ended it all has influenced the transparency and depth of his writing. Jason performed three songs during this episode, Death Without a Funeral, With Every Act of Love, and Without Running Away... each a powerfully crafted and emotionally impacting song that reveals the deep well of his heart and the masterful level of wordsmithing and tune crafting Jason has come to be known for in his ministry.   Among the many awesome moments of this discussion, Jason talks about: How the "gift" of his speech impediment has shaped his songs How he creates "points of entry" for his listeners to go deeper in the Gospel Why our brokenness is the very place God meets us and how he captures those places in his songwriting The balance between too much/too little transparency in songwriting and how his mentor, Walter Wangerin, taught him how to "give" to his audience instead of "taking" from them through over-sharing How to redeem your pain properly and how God used him to pray for couples in distress despite his own divorce and pain Three song categories and how to write for each, including the kind that are "unhewn stones" not to be touched by craft and made as a simple offering to God Insightful thoughts on his own song processes and why he chooses to be "invisible" inside his songs How "taking tools off the table" leads to creativity beyond our normal capacities How writers such as Frederick Buechner and N.T. Wright have influenced his lyrics How God spoke to him through an agnostic folk singer named Paul Simon and how God is able to make himself heard with or without our permission What the future may be for his songwriting and ministry   Anyone cynical about contemporary Christian music has yet to discover Jason Gray. This podcast will stir your creativity, challenge your preconceived notions about who God can or cannot use, and will dare you to face your own brokenness and need for Jesus, whether you write songs or just love listening to them.   You can connect with Jason Gray at jasongraymusic.com and follow him on FaceBook, Twitter, and Instagram. How to get involved Join the Successful Christian Songwriters Group on Facebook and continue the discussion! https://www.facebook.com/groups/SuccessfulChristianSongwriters/ Check out all of the resources for you to become the songwriter you were meant to be at www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com   If you liked this episode, be sure to subscribe and leave a quick review on iTunes. It would mean the world to hear your feedback and we'd love for you to help us spread the word!

Previous Episodes

This episode is a must-listen to anyone seeking an insider's look into how a hit-making Nashville producer can maintain his faith while producing top mainstream artists. When you look beyond this amazing list of production credits you will discover that Sal Oliveri is an outspoken Jesus follower who carries his humble, authentic faith into every session.

Country/Americana: Chris Stapelton, Carrie Underwood, Garth Brooks, Kenny Chesney, Keith Urban, Sheryl Crow, The Band Perry, Brett Eldredge, Lee Brice, Randy Houser, Parmalee, Haley & Michaels, Ricky Skaggs, Faith Hill, Jo Dee Messina, Lee Ann Womack, Charles Kelly (Lady Antebellum), John Paul White (The Civil Wars), David Nail, Lori McKenna, Kip Moore, High Valley, Leigh Nash

Pop/Rock/Urban: P!NK, Billy Joel, Emily West (America's Got Talent 2014 #2 finalist), Brooke White (American Idol), David Cook (American Idol), Dia Frampton (The Voice), Jack Antonoff (FUN, Bleachers), Dan Wilson (Semisonic, Adele), Stan Lynch (of Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers), Daniel Powter, Lucie Silvas, B.Reith, Room for Two, Jaren Johnston of "Cadillac Black", Andy Davis, Kevin Griffin (of Better Than Ezra) David Hodges (Evanescence)

Raised in the shadows of Manhattan, Sal Oliveri developed a diverse musical background. Before long, he was performing as musical director and keyboardist at Harlem's famous "Cotton Club" and hitting the NJ/NY studio scene. Soon after, Sal relocated to Nashville where his musical efforts quickly earned him a co-written #1 single and a Grammy Nomination. Sal has earned multiple Billboard and iTunes #1's, with over 13 Million streams in 2017 alone.

John Chisum visited with Sal in his amazing Grand Central South Studio, frequented by clients such as Kathi Lee Gifford, Nicole C. Mullen, and mega country writers Allen Shamblin ("I Can't Make You Love Me") and Tom Douglas ("Love Me Anyway"), as well as many aspiring artists looking for his production help.

John and Sal Oliveri talk about the Pink/Chris Stapleton duet "Love Me Anyway" (Douglas/Shamblin) and how a writer's demo became a hit song years after the production was done. Singer-songwriters and up-and-coming artists in any genre get an inside track to Sal's musical influences and perspectives, particularly in how he coaches artists to reach their best performances.

Sal shares from his deeply biblical outlook how he believes great music happens and why, giving songwriters and artists many powerful insights into how they can "show up" as themselves instead of being an imitation of what others are doing. 

Jillian Edwards: Finding Herself In Heaven's Eyes

7/17/2020
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"Tell me again a million times,Who I am in heaven's eyes," sings Jillian Edwards, a native of Texas now pro singer-songwriter living in Nashville with husband, Will Chapman, and daughter Willow Faye.

With songs placed on episodes of Nashville, Grey's Anatomy, Pretty Little Liars, and Citibank Ads, Edwards is in her fifth year as a signed songwriter to mega- publishing company Concord Music Group.

Her 2014 album, Daydream, topped iTunes' Singer/Songwriter chart and landed at No. 6 on Billboard's New Artist chart. 

Her new album "Meadow" was executive-produced by five-time GRAMMY® Award-winning artist, Steven Curtis Chapman, who happens to be Jillian's father-in-law. "Meadow" features newly co-written songs with other amazing songwriters; David Leonard, Jonathan Smith, Peter Groenwald, Josh Bronleewe, Tony Wood and Jessie Early.

In this episode, John Chisum and Jillian talk about the challenges of being a touring musical family (her husband, Will Chapman, is the drummer for indie rock band Colony House), whether or not the intimacy with God portrayed in her songs is a constant in her life, and how Jillian stays creative despite the demands of songwriting, touring, and building a family as a young wife and mother.

"Jillian is delightful," shares Chisum. "This episode will give any aspiring singer-songwriter a bird's-eye peek into what it's really like, even for someone as successful as Jillian and the Chapman family. I love this interview and I know it's going to be encouraging to a lot of people who hear it."

Jillian Edwards is a rarity you don't often find... a pure heart, a fresh voice, and someone who's transparent enough to share the real struggles behind making music as a career.

You can find Jillian Edwards on iTunes, Spotify, and at jillianedwards.com.

Phil Joel, bassist and vocalist with the iconic Christian band Newsboys for over a dozen years, solo artist, author, and frontman for the band Zealand has sworn off social media. 

No Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, TikTok, Youtube, Qzone, Weibo, Reddit, Flickr, Tumblr, Meetup or Odnoklassniki, which, by the way has 71 million active monthly users.

Joel can't be found on any of them. Zip. Nada. None

How can anyone who hopes to connect with listeners and fans as a musician possibly ignore all social media, and further, WHY would they choose to not participate in the billions of daily Tweets, memes, and posts that fuel the social frenzy of our collective cultural experience?

Well, the answers may surprise you, or, you may find yourself questioning your own obsession with likes and shares once you hear them from the totally Christ-centered and family oriented Phil Joel, a classy guy from Down Under New Zealand who says he's definitely not "anti-social media," but who has made a solid choice to trust God to be his best press agent and promoter.

Phil Joel's had the same blond dreads since he was 17 and he's not lost his youthful zeal for the Lord despite millions of miles and millions of fans. 

We talk about so many great things on this episode - - we have some laughs and go deep, as well, into his new book and Zealand's new album Liberated. I know you're going to really love this chat with my new friend from Down Under, Phil Joel.

In this episode, host John Chisum sits down with Darlene Zschech, iconic Australian songwriter of "Shout to the Lord," a song introduced in 1993 that is still sung weekly by millions of people worldwide. 

In this powerful interview, Darlene shares how "Shout to the Lord" came to her during a time of trial and why she feels she can take no credit for the song, how it passed through her, and personal stories of how God has used it in her life. 

Darlene is a dedicated wife, mum, author, songwriter, and together with her husband Mark, pastor to thousands of believers through Hope Unlimited Church, now in 11 cities internationally, with a church planting and relief organization called Hope: Global (https://hopeglobal.org/) serving thousands of people in the neediest areas of the world.

0:00 The impact of Shout to The Lord

3:01 John asks Darlene: So all these years later, what would you say to the shy young Darlene, maybe really about ministry and leadership... What would you say to her?

6:00 "I want to be invisible here while I, you know, just give glory to God. And if he allows me the privilege of having any influence, that is a great privilege. But actually my goal is that He be seen and He'd be known and His presence being counted"

10:00 Recording Way Maker

15:05 Early days of Hope Unlimited Church and how God has grown the ministry to have a lasting global impact

23:30 "If someone had told me pastoring, a church could be this much fun. I would have done it long time before."

28:42 John asks, "you've described your life as just a series of yeses. What are you saying yes to right now? And what might you be saying no to?"