Today's conversation on Back Porch Theology is with my friend Katherine Wolf about God's compassionate purpose with regards to our pain. Many of you have probably heard or read some of Katherine's story - she suffered a massive stroke when she was 26 years old, not long after giving birth to her and her husband Jay's first son, James. Her story is riddled with debilitating physical and emotional suffering - which she endures to this day - and yet she honestly oozes hope. Because she learned to find treasures in the dark by asking the hard and awkward questions pain prompts: Where is God in this? Am I alone? What is the point of all this suffering? Is hope just a cruel, false promise? Katherine dared to wrestle for answers without letting go of God. This is a rich and layered conversation so it's best to listen slowly and give the tenderest places in your heart time to soak it all in. Thank you for carving out the time to be with us today...we're really glad you're here.
Hello, friend. Thanks for joining me.
Let me ask you a question - is God good when life isn't? I understand if that's hard to answer. But I think today's episode could help; I pray it does.
Has life taken unexpected turns that have left you feeling hopeless, forgotten, or overwhelmed? In those moments, it's easy to feel abandoned and believe that God has overlooked your struggles. But rest assured, He hasn't - and He never will.
In this empowering episode of the Resilient Hope Summer Series, Christine Caine explores how God remains aware of our circumstances and is ready to guide us through even the most challenging seasons. Discover how to find strength amid difficulties and learn practical strategies to face obstacles without being weighed down by them.
You'll gain:
- Insights on maintaining hope when life feels overwhelming.
- Practical approaches to navigate hardship with confidence.
- Encouragement to trust in God's presence and promises.
Join us for encouragement and inspiration as we navigate this journey together, and let's ignite resilient hope in our hearts!
Don't forget to grab your free Episode Reflection Guide here!
P.S. We made a bonus resource for you this summer. Download your free 'Hope Kit' now!
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Christine Caine is a speaker, activist, and best-selling author. She and her husband, Nick, founded the anti-human trafficking organization The A21 Campaign. They also founded Propel Women, an initiative that is dedicated to coming alongside women all over the globe to activate their God-given purpose. Each week she brings you a Gospel-centered message filled with Biblical truths that will equip and empower you to step into the life God has for you.
Today is a red-letter kind of day here on Back Porch Theology because Alli and I have the undeserved privilege and absolute delight of having a conversation with one of the world's foremost experts on the New Testament canon, specifically the Gospels, Dr. Craig Blomberg. It's not every day you get to sit down with a brilliant saint with a PhD from the University Aberdeen, read an excerpt from his classic book called: "The Historical Reliability of the New Testament" - which, by the way, is just one of almost twenty academic books and commentaries that Dr. Blomberg's written - and then ask him this question: Will you please explain the term "hermeneutical spiral" as well as how it can be useful as we seek to not simply read and interpret the Bible but actually be read and interpreted by the Bible? Welcome to Back Porch Theology's scholar edition...we're really glad you've chosen to hang out with us today.
The fruit of the Spirit is... JOY. Join Ruth for this episode, meditating on Scripture about joy and its true source.
All summer long, join us in meditating on what it means to abide and consider the fruit of the Spirit in our lives. These short episodes, full of Scripture, are designed to be an opportunity to pause and realign your heart with truth.
Scripture referenced:
Galatians 5:22-23
Psalm 37:4
Proverbs 15:13-15
Philippians 4:4
James 1:2-3
John 15:10-11
Resources:
GraceLaced Fruit of the Spirit Collection
(gracelaced.com/FOTS)- use code POD15 to take 15% off items in the collection
Are you feeling stuck, exhausted, or ready to give up? In this episode of Equip and Empower, Christine Caine shares how to keep moving forward in faith-even when it feels like you've hit a wall. Whether you're waiting on God's promises, battling self-doubt, or just out of strength, this message is for you.
You'll learn:
- How to silence doubt and discouragement.
- What to do when your journey feels delayed.
- How to hold on to hope when you feel like quitting.
This is part of our Resilient Hope Summer series - real talk and encouragement to keep your faith strong, no matter your season.
Don't forget to grab your free Episode Reflection Guide here!
P.S. We made a bonus resource for you this summer to pair with Resilient Hope. Download your 'Hope Kit' now!
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Christine Caine is a speaker, activist, and best-selling author. She and her husband, Nick, founded the anti-human trafficking organization The A21 Campaign. They also founded Propel Women, an initiative that is dedicated to coming alongside women all over the globe to activate their God-given purpose. Each week she brings you a Gospel-centered message filled with Biblical truths that will equip and empower you to step into the life God has for you.
She's a Disney princess and a spiritual ninja-DawnCheré Wilkerson is back! In this heartfelt convo, we talk about her new book Slow Burn, walking through infertility, how God meets us in the wait, and why journaling might just change your life. You'll laugh, cry, and probably underline half the quotes in this one.
Connect with us on social!
DawnChere: @dawnchere
Levi: @levilusko
Jennie: @jennielusko
Fresh Life Church: @freshlife
[Links]
Slow Burn: https://bit.ly/3HpGvPX
Get the 5 Gallon Bucket: https://bit.ly/sdl4sHY
Get the Lusketeer Sticker: https://bit.ly/sdl4sHY
Subscribe for more exclusive content:
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08:14 - The Prayer Behind Slow Burn
15:08 - Next Level Nerdy Details
17:09 - Eight Years of Infertility
23:28 - Journaling: Sifting Dawn's Seasons
25:01 - Discovering Infertility
36:28 - Tears and Talking to God
In this episode, host Christine Caine brings you a dynamic compilation of our best conversations on calling featuring Dr. Arianna Molloy, April Stallworth, and Christine herself. From classrooms to corporations to everyday moments of obedience, each guest unpacks what it means to live on mission-right where you are. Whether you're in a season of transition, waiting, or wondering what's next, this episode will equip and encourage you to embrace your God-given calling with clarity and confidence.
Calling Is a Relationship, Not Just a Role
Dr. Arianna Molloy shares how true calling is anchored in relationship with the Caller, not just what we do-and how this keeps us grounded and joyful over time.
The Hidden Cost of Calling
Dr. Molloy explains why people who feel called are also most prone to burnout-and how to pursue a healthy, sustainable version of calling that doesn't sacrifice your soul.
Mission in the Marketplace
April Stallworth speaks powerfully about recognizing your workplace as a mission field and bringing Christ's presence with you, even when you can't speak His name out loud.
Obedience Opens Doors
Christine Caine reflects on her earliest years in ministry and how simply showing up with a willing heart set the trajectory for everything that followed.
It's Not About Being the Best-It's About Being Available
Christine challenges the myth that you must be the most qualified to be used by God. What matters most is your availability, not your résumé.
Follow Dr. Arianna Molloy @arianna_yeh,
Follow April Stallworth @aprilmichellestallworth
Check out the Resilient Hope Summer Series on the Equip & Empower Podcast
Follow Christine, @ChristineCaine
Subscribe now so you don't miss an episode, and don't forget to leave a review! See you next week on the Propel Women Life & Leadership Podcast.
You can connect with us further at PropelWomen.org or on Instagram, Facebook, X, and Threads @PropelWomen. We can't wait to hang out with you in your car, during your workout, or wherever you listen to podcasts!
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Propel Women is an initiative of Equip & Empower Ministries founded by Christine Caine.
We EMPOWER women with biblical wisdom and encouragement, EQUIP women with practical training and education, and MOBILIZE women by providing hands-on leadership opportunities.
No matter where a woman has influence - in an office, in her community, at home with her family, or in ministry - Propel is driven by a calling to equip and mobilize women to become effective co-laborers with Christ and make a difference within their unique spheres of influence.
Hello, my friend. I sure hope you're having a good day. If you're the type of person who listens to podcasts while you sit in traffic or stand in lines, today's topic has a touch of irony-waiting. No one's favorite activity. Especially when we're waiting for deliverance from a painful circumstance. But may I remind you of the promise found in Isaiah 40:31 - "But those who wait on the Lord shall renew their strength; They shall mount up with wings like eagles, They shall run and not be weary, They shall walk and not faint."
Today we are going to learn about Sabbath through Middle Eastern eyes and through the historic cultural context of the Bible. Sabbath is other than, more than and better than the ways we usually think of Sabbath here in the West. The world has a way of knocking rest right out of us. The Bible paints a beautiful picture of Sabbath as running so much deeper, wider and more than merely resting after working, catching our breath in the rat race of life.
There are 2 systems at play in the world. There is empire and there is kingdom. Empire is anchored in scarcity, and functions within striving and straining. There's never enough and the acquisition of more is the way to make sure you have enough. Kingdom is sabbathed, functioning within sufficiency and quiet trust in the Living God as our Father. It can relinquish because it trusts that there will be enough. We are not orphans or the fatherless. We can rest because He is always working.
The Bible tells the story of Sabbath as a celebration of restoration. Shabbat is the Hebrew word where we get our English word sabbath. Shabbat means "to cease". What is it that we are ceasing? During Sabbath we cease our work to remember and celebrate God's work. What work is that? That right now He is making all things new. A deep and profound restoration, renewal and repair are underway.
I pray you will feel the Lord's loving invitation into His Sabbath rest today.
She's a Disney princess and a spiritual ninja-DawnCheré Wilkerson is back! In this heartfelt convo, we talk about her new book Slow Burn, walking through infertility, how God meets us in the wait, and why journaling might just change your life. You'll laugh, cry, and probably underline half the quotes in this one.
Connect with us on social!
DawnChere: @dawnchere
Levi: @levilusko
Jennie: @jennielusko
Fresh Life Church: @freshlife
[Links]
Slow Burn: https://bit.ly/3HpGvPX
Get the 5 Gallon Bucket: https://bit.ly/sdl4sHY
Get the Lusketeer Sticker: https://bit.ly/sdl4sHY
Subscribe for more exclusive content:
https://levilusko.com/hitl-subscribe
08:14 - The Prayer Behind Slow Burn
15:08 - Next Level Nerdy Details
17:09 - Eight Years of Infertility
23:28 - Journaling: Sifting Dawn's Seasons
25:01 - Discovering Infertility
36:28 - Tears and Talking to God
In this episode, host Christine Caine brings you a dynamic compilation of our best conversations on calling featuring Dr. Arianna Molloy, April Stallworth, and Christine herself. From classrooms to corporations to everyday moments of obedience, each guest unpacks what it means to live on mission-right where you are. Whether you're in a season of transition, waiting, or wondering what's next, this episode will equip and encourage you to embrace your God-given calling with clarity and confidence.
Calling Is a Relationship, Not Just a Role
Dr. Arianna Molloy shares how true calling is anchored in relationship with the Caller, not just what we do-and how this keeps us grounded and joyful over time.
The Hidden Cost of Calling
Dr. Molloy explains why people who feel called are also most prone to burnout-and how to pursue a healthy, sustainable version of calling that doesn't sacrifice your soul.
Mission in the Marketplace
April Stallworth speaks powerfully about recognizing your workplace as a mission field and bringing Christ's presence with you, even when you can't speak His name out loud.
Obedience Opens Doors
Christine Caine reflects on her earliest years in ministry and how simply showing up with a willing heart set the trajectory for everything that followed.
It's Not About Being the Best-It's About Being Available
Christine challenges the myth that you must be the most qualified to be used by God. What matters most is your availability, not your résumé.
Follow Dr. Arianna Molloy @arianna_yeh,
Follow April Stallworth @aprilmichellestallworth
Check out the Resilient Hope Summer Series on the Equip & Empower Podcast
Follow Christine, @ChristineCaine
Subscribe now so you don't miss an episode, and don't forget to leave a review! See you next week on the Propel Women Life & Leadership Podcast.
You can connect with us further at PropelWomen.org or on Instagram, Facebook, X, and Threads @PropelWomen. We can't wait to hang out with you in your car, during your workout, or wherever you listen to podcasts!
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Propel Women is an initiative of Equip & Empower Ministries founded by Christine Caine.
We EMPOWER women with biblical wisdom and encouragement, EQUIP women with practical training and education, and MOBILIZE women by providing hands-on leadership opportunities.
No matter where a woman has influence - in an office, in her community, at home with her family, or in ministry - Propel is driven by a calling to equip and mobilize women to become effective co-laborers with Christ and make a difference within their unique spheres of influence.
Is watching a scary movie just entertainment-or something spiritually dangerous?
In this bold, honest conversation, Candace, her son Lev, and Pastor Jonathan Pokluda dig into how the enemy uses division-not just destruction-as his most effective tactic. From media boundaries to church gossip to family disagreements, they explore how spiritual warfare often plays out in ordinary moments.
Lev opens up about an eight-month season of spiritual doubt and how one vulnerable prayer shifted his heart. Listener Holly's question gives way to a beautiful discussion on how parents can walk with their kids through doubt-without panic, shame, or fear.
In this episode, host Christine Caine brings together powerful moments from our best interviews on identity to help you stand firm in who God created you to be. You'll hear from remarkable voices like Nona Jones, Priscilla Shirer, Katie Modrau, and Christine herself as they share truth and encouragement to combat lies and comparison. If you've ever wrestled with questions about who you really are, this episode will strengthen your foundation and remind you that your identity is anchored in Christ.
SHOW NOTES:
Healing the Broken Pieces
Nona Jones shares how trauma impacted her sense of worth-and how God stepped in to heal what was broken and restore her identity.
Identity That Can't Be Shaken
Christine and Priscilla Shirer discuss how knowing who you are in Christ provides unshakable confidence in a world constantly trying to define you.
The Power of God's Word in Identity Formation
Priscilla emphasizes the necessity of Scripture in discovering who you really are and staying anchored when lies try to creep in.
You Are Not What You Do
Katie Modrau opens up about separating her calling from her value, especially in seasons of transition, motherhood, and uncertainty.
Letting God Write Your Story
From deep wounds to divine purpose, each guest's story testifies to a God who redeems our past and redefines our future.
Follow Nona Jones @NonaNotNora,
Follow Priscilla Shirer @PriscillaShirer,
Follow Katie Modrau @KatieModrau
Check out the Resilient Hope Summer Series on the Equip & Empower Podcast
Follow Christine, @ChristineCaine
Subscribe now so you don't miss an episode, and don't forget to leave a review! See you next week on the Propel Women Life & Leadership Podcast.
You can connect with us further at PropelWomen.org or on Instagram, Facebook, X, and Threads @PropelWomen. We can't wait to hang out with you in your car, during your workout, or wherever you listen to podcasts!
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Propel Women is an initiative of Equip & Empower Ministries founded by Christine Caine.
We EMPOWER women with biblical wisdom and encouragement, EQUIP women with practical training and education, and MOBILIZE women by providing hands-on leadership opportunities.
No matter where a woman has influence - in an office, in her community, at home with her family, or in ministry - Propel is driven by a calling to equip and mobilize women to become effective co-laborers with Christ and make a difference within their unique spheres of influence.
What if the enemy could convince you that sin is freedom-and silence is safety? In this deeply personal episode, Candace, Lev, and Pastor JP unpack how the enemy deceives by flipping the value of everything: making cheap things seem worthy and making eternal things seem disposable.
JP opens up about switching price tags on a Boys II Men CD as a teenager-a story that becomes a metaphor for how we can be mislead. They explore how spiritual apathy, pride, fear of man, and a shallow view of eternity can all keep believers quiet when the world needs truth the most.
Candace shares about her own conviction over staying silent on set and Lev wrestles with pride and significance. This episode is both sobering and empowering, calling every listener to live for what truly matters.
Pastor Dino Rizzo joins Levi and Jennie for a powerful conversation on serving people at every level-from launching over 1,100 churches through ARC to bringing slippers and hope to juvenile detention centers. They talk about the heartbeat behind outreach, what makes a successful church plant, why slippers might just change the world, and the surprising secret to post-sermon peace. This one's packed with practical gold and heartfelt moments.
Connect with us on social!
Dino: @dinorizzo
Levi: @levilusko
Jennie: @jennielusko
Fresh Life Church: @freshlife
[Links]
ARC Ministries: https://bit.ly/4jnrtHu
Get the 5-Gallon Bucket: https://bit.ly/sdl4sHY
Get the Lusketeer Sticker: https://bit.ly/sdl4sHY
Subscribe for more exclusive content: https://levilusko.com/hitl-subscribe
Timestamps:
00:45 - Dino's Montana Vibes & Ministry Appreciation
02:15 - Learning from Missionary Legends & Church Outreach DNA
06:28 - Why Dino's Fired Up About Juvenile Detention Ministry
12:10 - How to Start Serving in Prisons and Detention Centers
18:26 - The ARC Story: Church Planting with Purpose
28:45 - Post-COVID Church Trends and Outreach Evolution
In this powerful 200th episode, Levi and Jennie Lusko sit down with the legendary TobyMac for a raw, vulnerable, and hope-filled conversation. From his earliest days with DC Talk to the crushing loss of his son Truett, Toby shares the story behind his music, his deep faith, and what it means to fight for joy amid unspeakable pain. They laugh, cry, and reflect on legacy, healing, and what "Heaven on My Mind" really means. This episode is a must-listen for anyone walking through hardship or seeking to hold onto hope.
Connect with us on social!
TobyMac: @tobymac
Levi: @levilusko
Jennie: @jennielusko
Fresh Life Church: @freshlife
[Links]
Stream "Heaven On My Mind": https://bit.ly/4jBHnPE
Get the 5 Gallon Bucket: https://bit.ly/sdl4sHY
Get the Lusketeer Sticker: https://bit.ly/sdl4sHY
Subscribe for more exclusive content: https://levilusko.com/hitl-subscribe
Timestamps:
00:45 - Celebrating 200 Episodes Live in Franklin
02:15 - TobyMac's First Concert Memories + DC Talk Origins
05:30 - Why He Keeps Making Music After All These Years
09:40 - The Summer Camp that Changed His Life Forever
14:10 - Losing Truett: Grief, Faith, and Finding Strength
19:05 - Writing "21 Years" and the Birth of Heaven on My Mind
23:50 - The Story Behind "God Did It" and Waging War on Jadedness
Former Miss Universe Demi-Leigh Tebow returns to chat with Levi and Jennie about embracing purpose beyond titles, navigating identity shifts, and the journey to motherhood. From hilarious godparent auditions to raw reflections on surrendering her literal crown, Demi brings deep wisdom and delightful charm. Plus, she gives the inside scoop on her new children's book, Princess Paris Finds Her Purpose, and how biltong nearly ruined Levi's jaw. This one's got laughs, life lessons, and lots of love.
Connect with us on social!
Demi: @demitebow
Levi: @levilusko
Jennie: @jennielusko
Fresh Life Church: @freshlife
[Links]
Princess Paris Finds Her Purpose: https://bit.ly/4jygThN
A Crown That Lasts: https://bit.ly/3YSYnbx
Get the 5 Gallon Bucket: https://bit.ly/sdl4sHY
Get the Lusketeer Sticker: https://bit.ly/sdl4sHY
Subscribe for more exclusive content: https://levilusko.com/hitl-subscribe
Timestamps
08:14 - Building community after moving
02:50 - Losing the crown, finding purpose
03:13 - Godparent auditions begin
14:18 - Pink stroller + growing together
29:28 - Princess Paris & purpose for kids
55:28 - Sharing the stage at Passion SA & speaking in her second language