Phil Joel, bassist and vocalist with the iconic Christian band Newsboys for over a dozen years, solo artist, author, and frontman for the band Zealand has sworn off social media.
No Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, TikTok, Youtube, Qzone, Weibo, Reddit, Flickr, Tumblr, Meetup or Odnoklassniki, which, by the way has 71 million active monthly users.
Joel can't be found on any of them. Zip. Nada. None
How can anyone who hopes to connect with listeners and fans as a musician possibly ignore all social media, and further, WHY would they choose to not participate in the billions of daily Tweets, memes, and posts that fuel the social frenzy of our collective cultural experience?
Well, the answers may surprise you, or, you may find yourself questioning your own obsession with likes and shares once you hear them from the totally Christ-centered and family oriented Phil Joel, a classy guy from Down Under New Zealand who says he's definitely not "anti-social media," but who has made a solid choice to trust God to be his best press agent and promoter.
Phil Joel's had the same blond dreads since he was 17 and he's not lost his youthful zeal for the Lord despite millions of miles and millions of fans.
We talk about so many great things on this episode - - we have some laughs and go deep, as well, into his new book and Zealand's new album Liberated. I know you're going to really love this chat with my new friend from Down Under, Phil Joel.
In this episode, host John Chisum sits down with Darlene Zschech, iconic Australian songwriter of "Shout to the Lord," a song introduced in 1993 that is still sung weekly by millions of people worldwide.
In this powerful interview, Darlene shares how "Shout to the Lord" came to her during a time of trial and why she feels she can take no credit for the song, how it passed through her, and personal stories of how God has used it in her life.
Darlene is a dedicated wife, mum, author, songwriter, and together with her husband Mark, pastor to thousands of believers through Hope Unlimited Church, now in 11 cities internationally, with a church planting and relief organization called Hope: Global (https://hopeglobal.org/) serving thousands of people in the neediest areas of the world.
0:00 The impact of Shout to The Lord
3:01 John asks Darlene: So all these years later, what would you say to the shy young Darlene, maybe really about ministry and leadership... What would you say to her?
6:00 "I want to be invisible here while I, you know, just give glory to God. And if he allows me the privilege of having any influence, that is a great privilege. But actually my goal is that He be seen and He'd be known and His presence being counted"
10:00 Recording Way Maker
15:05 Early days of Hope Unlimited Church and how God has grown the ministry to have a lasting global impact
23:30 "If someone had told me pastoring, a church could be this much fun. I would have done it long time before."
28:42 John asks, "you've described your life as just a series of yeses. What are you saying yes to right now? And what might you be saying no to?"