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Out of the Dark with Mandisa & Laura Williams

What I needed in my own darkness

I'm so thankful for this podcast. At first I thought it would just be fun to listen to, catch up on the life of Mandisa, and the revelations God gives her that she has always spoken so eloquently about. Very quickly I found that this was very needed in my life. I've had a couple years of my own darkness, and beating myself up in the process because it's never taken me out like this before. I work in ministry...actually I always have. In radio before and now in a church; I'm a leader and don't have anyone that really allows me to be real or open about junk in my life. They want to dump theirs on me and move on assuming I've got it together and honestly it's exhausting and isolating. I'm very disciplined, and boss my feelings around like the best of them. The past couple of years have been different, and even after trying Christian counseling that fell flat I was about to give up and accept that the dark was my life now. The things you talk about so candidly on here have started to chip away at the pit I'm in. I glean so much wisdom and perspective that I haven't been able to find anywhere else. I imagine myself sitting next to you two with a cup of chai and tears streaming down my face because I've finally found my people. Godly, wise women who have a space they can be real and an encouragement at the same time. If you ever need a guest on the pod, hit me up ? thank you for pushing through the hard, awkward and unknown to present a nugget of wisdom to the world and reminding us to trust God through it all.


So real, so authentic, so honest!! Setting a good example for how we should be in our own life and with others!! Thank you!!

So thankful

From someone who has battled mental health struggles for years, this podcast is one of the first Christian, Jesus filled ,mental health resources I have come upon. And it feels so real! So refreshing and so great to see this topic being talked about more. I think this will help so many people, thank you!

Praise God

Just binge listened to the first two episodes and will probably listen again! Great episodes. Thank you for touching these topics and bringing them to the surface in a biblical and Christian way!


Thank you so much Mandisa and Laura for this podcast! Some of our Church members have experienced a terrible lose this past weekend! And as God does not do anything halfway I am on a Grief Journey. So your message is right on point my sisters! You are a blessing to so many! Laura, I can relate to the not having fun part! I pray that I can learn to let go and let God, and that I choose to love life to the fullest as I continue the process of healing! Love you my sisters! Keep up the good work! ??


Love this podcast! It's short and to the point! Love their conversations and their beautiful spirits.

Huge Blessing in my life!

I heard the advertisement for this on my way to work.On my day off, I forced myself to have a mental health day.I sat in a park and started listening to this. I can't stop listening! I've already shared with so many already.This podcast is amazing, real & raw.Please continue this! You are helping soMany! Xoxox

Thank you

Just found this podcast. I am in a season of depression and this podcast is helping. You have encouraged me to seek therapy. Thank you an God bless.Dr. Williams, can you do am episode on emotion numbness, especially related to taking an antidepressant.

First two podcast

I am excited about this podcast ,I've met Mandisa at her concerts many times and love following her journey and hearing her story. I've just listened to the first two podcast and I like that there under 1/2 hour so I can fit it into a busy day. There very educational and enlightening and it's real talk! They offer Scripture to keep us grounded and give us perspective. There uplifting and encouraging and this podcast has come at a time where people are in great need of what God has to say through them. I highly recommend you listening in!

So honest and beautiful?

I love it! Thank you for being so honest about real issues in daily life, and giving great advice how to overcome; with Gods help?

Out of the Dark with Mandisa & Laura Williams

Out of the Dark is a podcast about mental health in the body of Christ. As followers of Jesus, people are sometimes led to believe that if we struggle with anxiety, depression, addiction, identity, or the many other areas of our mental health that we are less of a Christian or are just not praying enough. As members of the body of Christ, Mandisa and Laura will tackle the idea that, while Jesus IS enough, a relationship with a counselor can help heal wounds that will enhance your relationship with Jesus. They will cover specific topics related to mental health and offer resources to listeners to enhance your journey of personal growth. We can't do it alone; we need to step out of the dark of shame and guilt and into the light of recovery and redemption.

New episodes air Wednesday. Make sure to subscribe so you never miss an opportunity to step Out of the Dark.

About Mandisa

With more than 1.6 million records sold, GRAMMY® winner and American Idol Season 5 finalist Mandisa is a voice of encouragement and truth to people facing life's challenges all around the world. In less than a year, Mandisa performed her three RIAA Certified Gold hit singles "Overcomer," "Good Morning (feat. TobyMac)" and "Stronger" on ABC's Good Morning America (GMA). "Stronger" became an anthem, creating opportunities such as welcoming the emotional return of beloved morning host Robin Roberts and an invitation to perform the national anthem during a Sunday night NFL Network game to kick off Breast Cancer Awareness Month. Her 2013 GRAMMY® award-winning album Overcomer debuted at No. 1 on the Billboard Christian Albums Chart. The album's title track proved to be a smash at radio and earned the GRAMMY® for Best Contemporary Christian Music Song. Mandisa, also a 2-time K-LOVE Fan Awards co-host, debuted her latest chart-topping album Out Of The Dark alongside sharing the moving story of her fight with depression for the very first time on GMA as well.

About Laura

Laura Williams is the owner/founder of Be Found Counseling in Brentwood, Tennessee. She is a Licensed Professional Counselor who specializes in developmental and relational trauma and is trained in Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing (EMDR). Laura counsels women and works from a Christian perspective. She uses her extensive training as well as wisdom from her own counseling journey in her work with clients. She is married (21 years) and has three boys ages 17, 15, and 11. For more information about Laura or to connect with her, please visit her website at www.befoundcounseling.com or follow on Instagram @befoundcounseling.